Welcome to the newest article in Scrum for Operations. I started this series when I was working for NI. But now I’m going through the same process at BV so time to pick it back up again! Like my previous post on Speeding Up Releases, I’m going to go light on theory and heavy on the details, good and bad, of how exactly we implemented Agile and DevOps and where we are with it.
Here at BV (Bazaarvoice), the org had adopted Agile wholesale just a couple months before I started. We also adopted DevOps shortly after I joined by embedding ops folks in the product teams. Before the Agile/DevOps implementation there was a traditional organization consisting of many dev teams and one ops team, with all the bottlenecking and siloing and stuff that’s traditional in that kind of setup. Newer teams (often made up of newly hired engineers, since we were growing quickly) that started out on the new DevOps model picked it up fine, but in at least one case we had a lot of culture change to do with an existing team.
Our primary large legacy team is called the PRR team (Product Ratings and Reviews) after the name of their product, which now does lots more than just ratings and reviews, but naturally marketing rebranding does little to change what all the engineers know an app is called. Many of the teams working on emerging greenfield products that were still in development had just one embedded ops engineer, but on our primary production software stack, we had a bunch. PRR serves content into many Internet retailer’s pages; 450 million people see our reviews and such. So for us scalability, performance, monitoring, etc. aren’t a sideline, they’re at least half of the work of an engineering team!
This had previously been cast as “a separate PRR operations team.” The devs were used to tossing things over the wall to ops and punting on the responsibility even if it was their product, and the ops were used to a mix of firefighting and doing whatever they wanted when not doing manual work the devs probably should have automated.
I started at BV as Release Manager, but after we got our releases in hand, I was asked to move over to lead the PRR team and take all these guys and achieve a couple major goals, so I dug in.
Moving Ops to Agile
I actually started implementing Agile with the PRR Ops team because I managed just them for a couple months before being given ownership of the whole department. I had worked closely with many of them before in my release manager role so I knew how they did things already. The Ops team consisted of 15 engineers, 2/3 of which were in Ukraine, outsourced contractors from our partner Softserve.
At start, there was no real team process. There were tickets in JIRA and some bigger things that were lightly project managed. There was frustration with Austin management about the outsourcers’ performance, but I saw that there was not a lot of communication between the two parts of the team. “A lot of what’s going bad is our fault and we can fix it,” I told my boss.
Standups
A the first process improvement step, I introduced daily standups (in Sep 2012). These were made more complicated by the fact that we have half of our large team in Ukraine; as a result we used Webex to conduct them. “Let’s do one Austin standup and one Ukraine standup” was suggested – but I vetoed that since many of the key problems we were facing were specifically because of poor communication between Austin and Ukraine. After the initial adjustment period, everyone saw the value of the visibility it was giving us and it became self-sustaining. (With any of these changes, you just have to explain the value and then make them do it a little while “as a pilot” to get it rolling. Once they see how it works in practice and realize the value it’s bringing, the team internalizes it and you’re ready for the next step.) Also because of the large size and international distribution I did the “no-no” of writing up the standup and sending the notes out in email. It wasn’t really that hard, here’s an example standup email from early on:
Subject: PRR Infrastructure Daily Standup Notes 11/05/2012
Individual Standups
(what you did since last standup, what you will do by the next standup, blockers if any)
Alexander C – did: AVI-93 dev deploy testing of c2, release activity training; will do: finish dev c2, start other clusters
Anton P – did: review AVI-271 sharded solr in AWS proxy, AVI-282 migrating AWS to solr sharding; will do: finish and test
Bryan D – did: Hosted SEO 2.0 discussion may require Akamai SSL, Tim’s puppet/vserver training, DOS-2149 BA upgrade problems, document surgical deploy safety, HOST-71 lab2 ssh timeout, AVI-790, 793 lab monitoring, nexus errors; will do: finish prep Magpie retro, PRR sprint planning, Akamai tickets for hosted SEO, backlog task creation.
Larry B – did: MONO-107,109 7.3 release branch cut, release training; will do: AVI-311 dereg in DNS (maybe monitoring too?)
Lev P – did: deploy script change testing AVI-771; will do: more of that
Oleg K – did: review AVI-676 changes, investigate deployment runbooks/scripts for solr sharding AVI-773; to do: testing that, AVI-774 new solr slaves
Oleksandr M – did: out Friday after taking solr sharding live; will do: prod cleanup AVI-768, search_engine.xml AVI-594
Oleksandr Y – did: AVI-789 BF monitoring, had to fix PDX2 zabbix; will do: finish it and move to AVI-585 visualization
Robby M – did: testing AVI-676 and communicating about AWS sharding; will do: work with Alex and do AVI-698 c7 db patches for solr sharding
Sergii V – did: AVI-703 histograms, AVI-763 combining graphs; will do: continue that and close AVI-781 metrics deck
Serhiy S – did: tested aws solr puppet config AVI-271, CMOD stuff AVI-798, AVI-234
Taras U – did: tested BVC-126599 data deletion. Will do: pick up more tickets for testing
Taras Y – did: AVI-776 black Friday scale up plan, AVI-762 testing BF scale up; will do: more scale up testing
Vasyl B – did: MONO-94 GTM automation to test; will do: AVI-770 ftp/zabbix thing
Artur P – did: AVI-234 remove altstg environment, AVI-86 zabbix monitoring of db performance “mikumi”; will do: more on those
For context, while this was going on we were planning for Black Friday (BF) and executing on a large project to shard our Solr indexes for scaling purposes. The standup itself brought loads of visibility to both sides of the team and having the emails brought a lot of visibility to managers and stakeholders too. It also helped us manage what all the outsourcers were doing (I’ll be honest, before that sometimes we didn’t know what a given guy in Ukraine was doing that week – we’d get reports in code later on, but…).
I took the notes in the standup straight into an email and it didn’t really slow us down (I cheated by having the JIRA project up so I could copy over the ticket numbers). Because of the number of people, the Webex, and the language barrier the standups took 30 minutes. Not the fastest, but not bad.
Backlog
After everyone got used to the standups, I introduced a backlog (maybe 2 weeks after we started the standups). We had JIRA tickets with priorities before, but I added a Greenhopper Scrum style backlog. Everyone got the value of that immediately, since “we have 200 P2 tickets!” is obviously Orwellian at best. When stakeholders (my boss, other folks) had opinions on priorities we were able to bring up the stack-ranked backlog and have a very clear discussion about what it was more or less urgent/important than. (Yes, there were a couple yelling matches about “it’s meaningless to have five ‘top priorities!'” before we had this.) Interrupt tickets would just come in at the top.
Here’s a clip of our backlog just to get the gist of it…
All the usual work… just in a list. “Work it from the top!” We still had people cherry-picking things from farther down because “I usually work on builds” or “I usually work on metrics” but I evangelized not doing that.
Swimlanes
Using this format also gave me insight into who was doing what via the swimlanes view in JIRA. When we’d do the standup we started going down in swimlane order and I could ask “why I don’t see that ticket” or see other warning signs like lots of work in progress. An example swimlane:

This helped engineers focus on what they were supposed to be doing, and encouraged them to put interrupts into the queue instead of thrashing around.
Sprints
Once we had the backlog, it was time to start sprinting! We had our first sprint planning meeting in October and I explained the process. They actually wanted to start with one week sprints, which was interesting – in the dev world often times you start in with really long (4-6 week) sprints and try to get them shorter as you get more mature. In the ops world, since things are faster paced, we actually started at a week and then lengthened it out later once we got used to it.
The main issue that troubled people was the conjunction of “interrupt” tickets with proactive implementation tickets. This kind of work is why lots of people like to say “Ops should use kanban.”
However, I learned two things doing all this. The first is that for our team at least, the lion’s share of the work was proactive, not reactive, especially if you use a 1-2 week lookahead. “Do they really need that NOW, or just by next sprint?” Work that used to look interrupt driven under a “chaos plus big projects” process started to look plannable. That helped us control the thrash of “here’s a new urgent request” and resist it breaking the current sprint where possible.
Also, the amount of interrupt work varies from day to day but not significantly for a large team over a 1-2 week period. This means that after a couple sprints, people could reliably predict how many points of stories they could pull because they knew how much time got pulled to interrupt work on average. This was the biggest fear of the team in doing sprint planning – that interrupt work would make it impossible to plan – and there was no way to bust through it except for me to insist that we do a couple sprints and reevaluate. Once we’d done some, and people learned to estimate, they got comfortable with it and we’ve been scrumming away since.
And the third thing – kanban is harder to do correctly than Scrum. Scrum enforces some structure. I’ve seen a lot of teams that “use kanban” and by that they mean “they do whatever comes to mind, in a completely uncontrolled manner,” indistinguishable from how Ops used to do things. Real kanban is subtle and powerful, and requires a good bit of high level understanding to do correctly. Having a structure helped teach my team how to be agile – they may be ready for kanban in another 6 months or so, perhaps, but right now some guard rails while they learn a lot of other best practices are serving us well.
Poker Planning
After the traditional explanation (several times) about what story points are, people started to get it. We used planningpoker.com for the actual voting – it’s a bit buggy but free, and since sprint planning was also 15 people on both (or more) sides of a Webex, it was invaluable.
Velocity
It’s hard to argue with success. We watched the team velocity, and it basically doubled sprint to sprint for the first 4 sprints; by the end of November we were hitting 150 story points per sprint. I wish I had a screen cap of the velocity from those original sprints; Greenhopper is a little cussed and refuses to show you more than 7 sprints back, but it was impressive and everyone got to see how much more work they were completing (as opposed to ‘doing’). I do have one interesting one though:
This is our 6th and following sprints; you see how our average velocity was still increasing (a bit spikily) but in that last sprint we finally got to where we weren’t overpromising and underdelivering, which was an important milestone I congratulated the team on. Nowadays their committed/completed numbers are always very close, which is a sign of maturity.
Just Add Devs – False Start!
After the holiday rush, they asked me and another manager, Kelly, to take over the dev side of PRR as well, so we had the whole ball of wax (doubling the number of people I was managing). We tried to move them straight to full Scrum and also DevOps the team up using the embedded ops engineer model we were using on the other 2.0 teams. PRR is big enough there were enough people for four subteams, so we divided up the group into four sprint teams, assigned a couple ops engineers to each one, and said “Go!”.
This went over pretty much like a lead balloon. It was too much change too fast. Most of the developers were not used to Agile, and trying to mentor four teams at once was difficult. Combined with that was the fact that most of the ops staff was remote in Ukraine, what happened was each Austin-BV-employee-led team didn’t really consider “those ops guys” part of their team (I look around from my desk and see four other devs but don’t see the ops people… Therefore they’re not on my team.) And that ops team was used to working as one team and they didn’t really segment themselves along those lines meaningfully either. Since they were mostly remote, it was hard to break that habit. We tried to manage that for a little while, but finally we had to step back and try again.
Check back soon for Scrum for Operations: Just Add DevOps, where I reveal how we got Agile and DevOps to work for us after all!